What is the Actual Definition of a Bad Father?

What Is the Actual Definition of a Bad Father?
Louise PenningtonJul 15, 2013
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/3588558

A Nation of Motherless Children? | Janie McQueen, Author and Divorce Gamesmanship Expert

http://janiemcqueen.com/a-nation-of-motherless-children/ A Nation of Motherless Children? http://janiemcqueen.com/a-nation-of-motherless-children/ “In some of the more severely manipulated cases, the tables were turned on mothers who sought to protect their children from abusive fathers; they were punished in family court and by the abusive parent. Many are limited to a couple hours’ supervised visitation every two weeks. They don’t have the privilege of shaking on the bleachers with the rest of us, who naturally take such excursions for granted. Many times there’s a protective order that would keep them from attending even public events such as this, when all they long to do is see their children in action, and enjoy a game to break up a brutal week of missing their children. …What kind of man goes to every length and expense possible to deny his children a healthy, some would say critical, portion of motherly love in their lives? Or not even that–what kind of man begrudges his ex any meaningful contact with her own children? Is this not evidence he could be lacking as a father? If not, why? Sorry about that failed relationship, man, but the children from it remain. Lucky you to have a magic wallet to make it all go away. It’s time to stop treating kids as chattel instead of children.” Janie McQueen’s Book on How Family Court Is A Game: Hanging On By My Fingernails: Surviving the New Divorce Gamesmanship, and How a Scratch Can Land You in Jail In this daring, groundbreaking book, journalist Janie McQueen unveils the truth behind the “new divorce gamesmanship”–vicious tactics that thrust victims into complex webs of legal tangles that destroy spirits and hobble divorce cases. These surprisingly common–and legally deadly–ploys can and often lead to criminal charges and trials, lingering records, heartbreaking child custody battles, embarrassing distortion campaigns, and even unemployment as employers increasingly trawl the Internet for background checks.

joeyisalittlekid: William M Windsor: An American Terrorist

http://joeyisalittlekid.blogspot.com/2013/02/william-m-windsor-american-terrorist.html

This is the ‘go to blog’ for updates about the twisted psychopath Bill Windsor and his fake “Lawless America – con game”. Daily updates sometimes twice daily – open comments each post gathering in excess of over 200 un moderated comments. If you want to know — this is the place to go.

Kudos to joeysalittlekid and many other blogs, video mixers and so much more. WE ARE the people and we invite free thinking. I am sure that some dictators could be good… but his Fuher Bill y Windsor is most definitely not good for anyone but him self.

This entry is just one of many – one that needs reposted and shared.

William M Windsor: An American Terrorist

So I have been doing some reading up.  First, on the latest over at Quatloos about Billy:

http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=7690&hilit=windsor&start=40

As you can see, these guys have been following him along with a hoard of other characters they all call a part of the Sovereign Citizen Movement.  This got me to really thinking back to when Windsor devoted an hour of filming to his buddy Carl Swensson of the Birther Movement.  Then I ran across this article:

http://www.salon.com/2009/04/01/birthers/

Did you catch that?  He pulled this citizen grand jury on the very day, April 1st, that Billy has announced he will do his own version on.  Obviously Carl is advising him on this.  Windsor is trying to learn from the mistakes Carl did in limiting it to just the Birther movement.  The Why isn’t important, its the end result that matters.  This is why Windsor is allowing any and everything into his fake movie.  We can go from a guy who wants his cybersquatting rights, to mothers trying to get their kids back, to a guy trying to make his own currency and then to a slum lord trying to put up big billboards wherever he wants.  There is nothing that connects these people other than theyagree with Billy’s preamble that the court system is broken and needs to be fixed.  As long as you agree to that tenant, you are on his team.  Your particular issue matters not, just the end goal.

But lets get back to this Sovereign Citizen Movement that all these characters seem to fit under.  The FBI considers the SCM a domestic terrorist group and a growing threat to law enforcement. http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/september-2011/sovereign-citizens

"They could be dismissed as a nuisance, a loose network of individuals living in the United States who call themselves “sovereign citizens” and believe that federal, state, and local governments operate illegally. Some of their actions, although quirky, are not crimes. The offenses they do commit seem minor"

"However, a closer look at sovereign citizens’ more severe crimes, from financial scams to impersonating or threatening law enforcement officials, gives reason for concern."

And they conclude with this:

"Although the sovereign-citizen movement does not always rise to violence, its members’ illegal activities and past violent—including fatal—incidents against law enforcement make it a group that should be approached with knowledge and caution"

Lets look at what the Anti-Defamation League has to say about this movement and the similarities we can see in Billy:

http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/SCM.asp?xpicked=4

"The key distinguishing characteristic of the sovereign citizen movement is its extreme anti-government ideology, couched in conspiratorial, pseudohistorical, pseudolegal and sometimes racist language. Many extremist movements in the 20th century have been anti-government in the sense that they opposed governmental policies, but few have been so purely anti-government that they challenged its very legitimacy"

This sounds like our guy doesn’t it?

"Members of the Posse Comitatus believed that the county was the true seat of government in the United States. They did not deny the legal existence of federal or state governments, but rather claimed that the county level was the "highest authority of government in our Republic as it is closest to the people." The basic Posse manual stated that there had been "subtle subversion" of the Constitution by various arms and levels of government, especially the judiciary."

Uh huh, this is why he wants people in all 3,300 counties across the nation to bring the charges at the county level.

Paper Terrorism

"Yet despite a pattern of violent activity, the preferred weapon of members of the sovereign citizen movement is what has come to be called "paper terrorism." Paper terrorism involves the use of fraudulent legal documents and filings, as well as the misuse of legitimate documents and filings, in order to intimidate, harass and coerce public officials, law enforcement officers and private citizens"

There is our boy Billy to the T.  And don’t forget his illegal use of a 501c3 non-profit.

"One of the first tactics of the resurgent sovereign citizen movement was the formation of vigilante "common law courts." Members of these courts used them as a forum for grievances against the "de facto" government or for assistance in attempts to harass their enemies"

Yep, this is exactly where we are headed with this next phase in the Lawless Terrorist Network.

"The filing of frivolous lawsuits and liens against public officials, law enforcement officers and private citizens, on the other hand, has remained a favorite harassing strategy. These paper "attacks" intimidate their targets and have the beneficial side effect of clogging up a court system that sovereign citizens believe is illegitimate."

OMG, just stop it, this is way to accurate and telling.

So, as you can see, this is who Bill Windsor is, and this is also where we are headed.  When the lemmings file their made up charges against law enforcement officials, they will be engaging in domestic terrorism along with Bill.  And it needs to be overstated that everyone involved with Lawless America is connecting themselves with terrorist activities specificity delineated by the FBI.  Ignorance is no excuse.  You either wake up now, or finally figure it out when you are behind bars.  The Pied Piper is leading you down a patch of certain destruction.

Hop on over to joeyisalittlekid and read and leave a comment!

ERIC HOLDER –DADDY DEAREST—asks why mommy’s loose custody to batterers ?–ITS CUZ of Fatherhood initiatives and HE is a BIG PART of it—WTF?? MOMMY GO BYE BYE

"IF SO, WHAT DOES THAT RELATIONSHIP LOOK LIKE?" -ERIC HOLDER*

FATHERHOOD INITATIVES THATS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE—gee thanks Eric MOMMY GO BYE BYE

*Former judge on the Superior Court of the District of Columbia (Photograph clickable)

Commentary "A" by the APA Public Interest Directorate in a 1998 Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force On Violence And The Family on ISSUES AND DILEMMAS IN FAMILY VIOLENCE beginning WHEN PARENTS SEPARATE AFTER AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP, SHOULDN’T FATHERS HAVE AS MUCH RIGHT AS MOTHERS TO BE GRANTED PHYSICAL CUSTODY OF AND VISITATION RIGHTS WITH THEIR CHILDREN? and Commentary "B" by the American Judges Association in a 2002 Court Review Special Issue on DOMESTIC VIOLENCE beginning THE PARENTING OF MEN WHO BATTER

Photograph clickable

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Ok sooooooo we have him asking all the right things  THEY KNOW—- THE GUBERMENT KNOWS THAT BATTERED MOTHERS LOOSE CUSTODY TO ABUSERS!!!!!

BUT THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND HURT BATTERED MOMS MORE WITH THE FATHERHOOD INIATIVES MOST RECENTLY THE JUNE 2010  FATHERHOOD MENTOR PROGRAM—see below

HOLDER IS IN CHARGE OF THE WORST OF THE DADDY’S—THE PRISON DADDY’S –BUT HE IS GOING TO FORCE THESE BAD DADS BACK INTO BATTERED MOMMYS LIVES ALL FOR THE SAKE OF FATHERHOOD EXHALTATION.. WTF???

FATHERS DAY FEDERAL FUNDING SPEECH 2010

 

Obama steps up fatherhood advocacy with new mentoring initiative 

BAD DAD ON BAD DAD TEACHING BAD DAD —UH HUH YOU HEARD THAT RIGHT-MENtor program –500 MILLION OF OUT OUR TAX DOLLARS FOR THIS

The First Family

In what is becoming a Father’s Day ritual for the Obama administration, the president on Monday will bring together children, famous dads and nonprofit groups that promote fatherhood to highlight the importance of fathers.

The center of President Obama‘s day-long celebration will be a speech at the ARC, an arts and recreation campus in Southeast Washington, where he is set to announce the creation of the President’s Fatherhood and Mentoring Initiative. It will build on a theme that has been central to his family policy and a core part of the White House’s Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

The new initiative, which is enlisting a network of organizations, will expand on a six-city listening tour the administration held last year to bring attention to the issue of fatherlessness. "The tour was a national conversation on responsible fatherhood that was rooted in the president’s personal experiences growing up and his realization that father absence is a real challenge facing many communities," said Joshua DuBois, director of the partnerships office.

Last year, more than 24 million children did not live with their biological fathers, census figures show. Among low-income children, the figure is two out of three.

Obama will also ask Congress to move on his $500 million budget request for a Fatherhood, Marriage and Families Innovation Fund, which would give grants to nonprofits that support fathers and families, including job training programs and economic incentives for dads. The tightened focus on fathers and parental responsibility marks a steady shift from the George W. Bush administration’s concentration on traditional marriage, said Chuck Donovan, a senior research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation and a former executive vice president at the Family Research Council.

"The economic support for fathers, while important, is not something new for government," he said. "The marriage-building efforts were new and I think they are [being] undernourished."

Obama’s special interest in fatherhood has been a boon for groups that support fathers and have been working for years without much attention. "His leadership and using the bully pulpit has been important," said Roland Warren, president of the National Fatherhood Initiative, which was founded in 1994 and recently contracted with the federal government to produce public service announcements promoting fatherhood.

The administration will also begin issuing an e-newsletter from the Fatherhood.gov Web site, emphasizing the role of fathers in families and offering parenting tips. Outside groups enlisted by the White House will also promote the issue. The NFL Players Association has agreed to hold community forums on responsible fatherhood, and the National Parent Teachers Association, the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities and other groups will hold events.

On Sunday, meanwhile, Obama made what appears to be the first presidential Father’s Day statement that mentions "two fathers."

"Nurturing families come in many forms, and children may be raised by a father and mother, a single father, two fathers, a stepfather, a grandfather, or caring guardian," he said.

Staff writer Alec MacGillis contributed to this report.

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Maternal Deprivation Inflicted on Battered Women and Abused Children – This is the Father Rights Movement

American Mothers Political Party

"Maternal Deprivation Abuse is featured on BMLCTA Blog in an effort to wipe out this heinous crime against mothers and children."

Maternal Deprivation, or Motherlessness, is occurring with alarming frequency due to the unethical treatment of women and children in family court. Maternal Deprivation is inflicting abuse by severing the mother-child bond. It is a form of abuse that men inflict on both the mother and children, especially men who claim they are “parentally alienated” from their children when there are complaints of abusive treatment by the father.

Maternal Deprivation occurs when men seek to keep their children from being raised by their mothers who are the children’s natural caretakers. Some men murder the mothers of their own children. Others seek to sever the maternal bonds by making false allegations of fictitious psychological syndromes in a deliberate effort to change custody and/or keep the child from having contact with their mother when there are legal proceedings. A twisted form of Maternal Deprivation is to kill the children, so that the mother will be left to suffer. Sometimes there are family annihilation murders where the father kills the children and himself (or dies by cop), but the mother is not killed because she has received protective orders and her children have not as in the case of Jessica Gonzales.

In seeking to define this form of abuse certain common elements are found in the Maternal Deprivation scenario as follows:

• History of domestic abuse that could be physical, psychological, sexual, and/or social abuse occurring on or off again, occasionally, or chronically which could be mild, moderate, or severe, including homicidal and/or suicidal threats.
• Legal proceedings relating to abuse
• Hiring of “Fathers Rights” attorney
• Use of “Hired Gun” mental health professionals to make accusations of psychological disorder against the mother and children in deliberate effort to excuse abuse and change custody or grant visitation that is contrary to safety concerns. Another name for these unethical professionals are “Whores of the Courts“
• Raising claims of “psychological disorders” against the mother such as “Parental Alienation Syndrome” (PAS),Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome, Malicious Mother Syndrome, Lying Litigant Syndrome, Hostile Aggressive Parenting or any other mother-blaming psychological disorder that can be used by the unethical professional to re-victimize the victims.
• Infliction of “Legal Abuse” by continually and excessively filing motions so that the mother continually has to defend herself and her child(ren) causing financial and emotional devastation.
• Can occur in response to child support legal proceedings as retaliation.

The intent of “Maternal Deprivation” is to punish the mother and the child for revealing the abuse and to falsely claim that they are not abusive. This very commonly occurs as there are more and more “abuse-excuse”parental alienation accusing professionals who use this scientifically invalid theory over and over to achieve specific goals of the person paying them. Maternal Deprivation can also occur in response to child support legal proceedings. When occurring in this manner, Maternal Deprivation is a response to the financial demands as retaliation. Suddenly the father who had little prior involvement wants to take the kids half the time to avoid child support obligations, etc. When the men are really abusive, they ask for sole custody and demand the mother of the child pay them.

Although some people call this “Maternal Alienation”, a distinction needs to be made as the pro-pedophilia “Parental Alienation Syndrome” and the use of the word “Alienation” are most often used AGAINST battered women and abused children. There needs to be a distinction between the phony psychological syndrome and the intentional infliction of abuse on a mother and child by intentionally severing their natural bond. This distinction can best be made by NOT using the label of “Alienation” which will always be associated with the pro-pedophilia monster Doctor Richard Gardner.

Some of the characteristics of the especially heinous abusers who inflict Maternal Deprivation include but are not limited to the following:

• Angry
• Abusive
• Violent
• Coercive
• Controlling
• Threatening
• Intimidating
• Demanding
• Domineering
• Harassing
• Stalking
• Tyrannical
• Oppressive
• Forceful
• Manipulative
• Deceptive
• Unethical
• Un-empathetic (Lacks Empathy)
• Entitled
• Immature
• Self-centered
• Neglectful
• Guilt inducing
• Pushy
• Intentionally tries to humiliate mother and/or child
• Harsh, rigid and punitive parenting style
• Outrage at child’s challenge of authority
• May use force to reassert parental position
• Dismissive of child’s feelings and negative attitudes
• Vents rage, blames mother for “brainwashing” child and takes no responsibility
• Challenges child’s beliefs and/or attitudes and tries to convince them otherwise
• Inept and unempathic pursuit of child, pushes calls and letters, unannounced or embarrassing visits

There is a distinct overlap of the intimate terrorist type domestic violence abuser with the Maternal Deprivation abusers as follows:

• Coercion and threats
• Intimidation
• Emotional abuse
• Isolation
• Minimizing, denying and blaming (Hallmarks of PAS)
• Using children
• Economic abuse
• Male privilege

The people who most often engage in Maternal Deprivation Abuse are most often:

• Abusive men
• Vindictive second wives who don’t want to deal with the real mother of the children
• Paternal grandparents who raised dysfunctional children (abusers)

The effects of Maternal Deprivation often cause the children to become psychotic, depressed, and sometimes suicidal or to have suicidal ideations. Another terrible reaction is when the child retaliates against the parent who accusesParental Alienation Syndrome as in a Texas case where the child killed his father. Other times when the Maternal Deprivation abuser completely takes over the will of the child by using brainwashing techniques similar to those used in prison camps where deprivation and isolation are used to force ideological changes in captives, these children often have a sort of trauma-bonding with the abuser and model their behavior. Sometimes these children will also abuse the mother in the same manner as the father. Another generation is created to carry on the abuse, and will likely do the same to their own spouse and children.

For more articles involving Maternal Deprivation:

• The Crime Report – Failure To Protect The Crisis in Family Courts
• Failure of Family Court System Leads To Death and Devastation
• Doctor Who Intentionally Severs Bonds With Mothers Is a Monster
• Child in imminent fear shoots father – vindicated in appeal – PAS fraud nightmare
• Cincinatti PAS
• VAWnet Joan Meier on PAS-Parental Alienation Syndrome & Parental Alienation: Research Reviews
• More

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THE parents of the man convicted of trying to kill his own baby want Custody of injured child from mom WTF?

Breed Woman Breed—but you will never have your offspring, every one else has their rights above yours. RUN MOTHERS RUN!

THEY take her injured son from her because HE Tries to kill her son WTF? Vulnerable? You bet killer dads dont just beat their children—they TORTURE the mother of their children. GIVE HER BACK her child!!!

Custody battle over tot battered by dad

THE parents of the man convicted of trying to kill his own baby will try and get custody for the injured child in a legal battle that starts next week.

The child is likely to experience learning and mobility problems for the rest of his life after his skull was cracked in a brutal attack on January 6.

A family court hearing is due to start next week as the parents of the convicted man battle with the tot’s mum’s family for custody of the child, now aged seven months.

His dad is starting a 17-year jail term for attempted murder.

The baby is currently in the care of Doncaster Council after being taken away from his 17-year-old mum in the wake of the terrible attack.

Lawyers acting for Doncaster Council said the "emotional temperature" of the case was running hot as both parties waited "in the wings" for a verdict in the criminal trial of the baby’s dad.

The teenage mum has a history of violence and depression and has been known to Doncaster Council social services since March 2008.

She was labelled a ‘vulnerable parent’ when visited by health workers after her baby’s birth.

Sheffield Crown Court heard she was a ‘loner’ who had dropped out of school and lived in a crowded household with money problems.

Chris Pratt, director of children’s services in Doncaster, said: "Doncaster Council’s children’s services were involved historically with the family but not at the time of the injury.

"Following the incident the council has been working in partnership with the police and continues to support the family."

In February a council statement said a serious case review would not be required.

Seven children died in the Doncaster area over five years as a result of abuse or neglect, leading to a takeover of Doncaster’s children’s services in March 2009.

An independent review found childcare provision was "seriously weak".

The latest case comes a year after the Edlington disaster, when two young boys were tortured by two brothers, aged 11 and 12.

A serious case review found the Edlington attacks had been "preventable".

Parental Alienation Syndrome (PAS) Stuart Showalter Neo Nazi-Fathers Rights Advocate-Abusers Rights Advocate Glenn Sacks-Abusers Advocate,Right Wing Terrorist- Fathers Rights. Warren Farrell, Mike J Murphy, Jeremy Swanson, Mark K Godbey, Donald Tenn, Stan Rains, Richard A. Gardner coined the term Parental Alienation Syndrome

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Amber Huggins, Lauren McConniel’s mother, spent six months trying to find daughters- Father was given Custody and killed her

 

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Here is more details, (Arkansas):

http://www.thestarp ress.com/ article/20100618 /NEWS01/6180307/ Amber-Huggins- Lauren-McConniel -s-mother- spent-six- months-trying- to-find-daughter s

Amber Huggins, Lauren McConniel’s mother, spent six months trying to find daughters

MUNCIE — The biological mother of Lauren McConniel says she lost custody of the girl because she couldn’t afford an attorney.

She also says she pleaded unsuccessfully with the girl’s father and stepmother — via e-mail — to tell her where they were living in the months before Lauren’s death.

"I was kept from my daughter for six months," said Amber Huggins, a Marion native now living in Knoxville, Tenn. "I looked everywhere for them (Lauren and her 9-year-old sister) for six months."

Five-year-old Lauren’s father, Ryan McConniel, and stepmother, Brittany McConniel, have been charged with felony neglect of a dependent resulting in Lauren’s death on March 9.

Related

• A Muncie woman plans a candlelight vigil for Lauren

Amber and Ryan’s divorce decree in White County, Ark., granted Ryan custody of both girls in 2007.

"I did not have the financial resources to have an attorney," Amber said this week in a telephone interview. "Ryan had an attorney and I did not. There was no other reason he got custody. I was not an unfit mother. I never hurt my children."

Ryan kept the older daughter, but let Amber have Lauren starting at Christmas of 2008 after Amber filed a complaint of child abuse.

"She had bruises on her," Amber said. "I asked her what happened and she said she didn’t know. I took pictures of the bruises but they were old and not good quality pictures. Child protective services in White County said it was not enough."

Amber had Lauren until August 2009 when Ryan took her back. He gave Knoxville police an address in Winchester where he said he would be living.

But Amber later traveled to Winchester, and, accompanied by the police, went to the address Ryan had provided to Knoxville police.

Nobody had lived at the address in a long time.

"I sent numerous e-mails begging them to give me their address," Amber said. "I was told they were living in Winchester. I heard they were living in Farmland. I heard Fort Wayne. I heard Muncie. I heard everything."

Amber said Ryan and Brittany responded by e-mail that she could see the girls when they got old enough to decide for themselves if they wanted to see her.

http://www.thestarp ress.com/ section/videonet work?bctid= 96669528001# /Woman%20plans% 20vigil%20for% 20deceased% 20girl%20% 2806.16.10% 29/96669528001

This is the little girl that died in Muncie.  The mother couldn’t find her, dad and stepmom kept her from her.  Mom couldn’t afford lawyer, mom lost custody.

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